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I took a gander at some shotguns today at Wallyworld. One was a Remington 870, the other a Mossberg Maverick. The Mossberg was $177. Any good or bad things to be said about either one? What I'm looking for is something for home protection, but at the same time I want something I can hunt with(deer and hog). I'm shopping around the $300-$350 range, but the cheaper the gun the more ammo or the closer I am to my next gun.

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Good point! You'll get what you pay for.

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Mossberg Mavericks are great guns. Whether the police or military use them shouldnt matter much. Do the police use their duty weapons to hunt deer and hogs?

For the record, I have heard that some small departments do use them.

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What was the 870 selling for and was it the Express model? I believe both the 870 Express and the Mossy Maverick are made offshore (China or the Phillipines). If your looking for a shotgun for both home defense and hunting, you should look for a package deal; a shotgun that has both 18.5" and 26"+ barrels.

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Don't forget Remington has a $30 rebate on the Express until the end of the month.
http://www.remington.com/pdfs/promo_coupon.pdf

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Here is some information:

http://forums.officer.com/forums/arc...p/t-57488.html

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/in...7183237AAdJS2G

I like the 870's.

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I have the sneaking suspicion you've never handled a Mossberg 500 ...



A lot of people like the Remington 870 for a good pump-action defense shotgun. I am not one of them. This article explains why. My reasons for disliking the Remington 870 may not apply to you -- as in all my articles, my theme is that if it fits your particular person, then you should go with it! But in my opinion, there are some good, objective reasons for not selecting the Remington 870.

http://members.tripod.com/~jth8260/870.html

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Thanks for that very, very important advice ....

Now back to the Mossy 500 !


Check out the position of the slide release and safety.

Also notice the cartridge elevator always in the "up" position, unlike the 870 down in the way for reloading.

And there's two shell extractors in that shotgun.



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It beats the 870 on that because the elevator drops AFTER the slide is in the furthest rear position.

A double stack is just about impossible.


Just because the price is cheap doesn't mean the shotgun is "substandard".

Buy two if you need to burn the FRNs.



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I am unsure what they were asking for the 870, but I'm thinking it was about $270 or .....and it may have been an express. Can I buy different barrels for either Mossbergs or the 870? I like that idea of having the barrels to switch out. On the Maverick, what are some of the faults that would prevent some of you from buying it- like is there a specific problems associated with the model. At this point I am still lacking a pistol of decent caliber and quality, so really all I have is a 12g double barrel. I NEED a decent firearm.

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The local one here in the Florida panhandle does.

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http://meatman.smugmug.com/photos/442083890_YVRjN-L.jpg


The Self-Loading Police Shotgun guarantees soft recoil and reliability of a gas-operated autoloading action. This shotgun has also the exclusive speed loading feature made popular by John M. Browning's famous Auto-5.
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:111::111::111: There are exceptions, of course, but :36_1_25: in general, I have to agree. I have several friends who are or were LEOs, sometimes I think some I've known - well, their shoe size exceeded their IQ. But then, you run into that in about all professions.

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The Maverick barrels are interchangeable with Mossberg 500 barrels of the same gauge. I'll provide a link to the Maverick site at the end to give you an idea about options and pricing. You should be able to find one online or at a sporting goods store, like Cabela's, etc.

They make additional barrels for the 870 as well. With both models, just make sure any additional barrel will fit the model you've got.

As for what to do, I've got a Maverick, a Mossberg Persuader, and a 870 Police version (that one's on the way). To me, if Mossberg is willing to put its name on the brand, it's probably not a piece of crap. But that's just my opinion. For a little more than the price of the 870 (and you're most likely looking at an Express for that money) you can probably pick up a Maverick with an extra barrel.

One more option - check out impact guns, Gunbroker.com, and other sporting goods places that sell guns. You may be able to pick up a Mossberg 2-in-1 or 3-in-1, where you get the gun and an extra barrel or two for a pretty reasonable price. Good luck!

http://www.maverickarms.com/pages/barrels.htm

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I was looking at this one http://www.impactguns.com/store/015813514828.html -thanks for the link btw. How many shots will it hold? I was also looking at the Mariner- 9 shots!!! Guess if I went with the Mariner it would cost me, but always could just buy an extra barrel?

I read about the 590 having the factory alteration to prevent changing it to hold more rounds- does Mossberg do anything like that? Might be more cost effective to just buy the cheaper mossberg like in the link I just posted and just add the part that would make it hold more? What is that part called btw?

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What HE said.

Mod 1897 and Mod 12 do NOT have trigger disconnects by design, meaning you can pull the trigger and hold it back while you cycle all five rounds through the chamber. I can 'name that tune' in 3 seconds or less.

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The F-22 Craptor is "mil-spec."

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Same difference.

Like the Mountain Man said, mil-spec = made by the lowest bidder.

And it's worse than that: lowest bidder making passable products at the lowest cost, NOT the best products at whatever the cost.

If mil-spec meant quality, the standard US rifle would not be the M-16 nor the primary round the 5.56 cartridge. And if it meant quality, families of Iraq-deployed soldiers would not have had to fight to get them effective body armor to replace the mil-spec crap issued to them.

I'm not trying to pick on you, SF, just pointing out that "mil-spec" is not synonymous with "quality" or "reliability."